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Subject :Biorock aeration unit..
2011-10-01 13:15:58
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| Annie McEnery |
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Anyone have experience with the Biorock unit? is it acceptable to councils? it does have EN cert. It looks good at first glance, but are installations difficult/tricky? Do you design polishing filter
as per septic tank or as per secondary treatmnet system? |
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2011-10-03 09:35:53
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| Tim Clifford |
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Hi Annie,
Yes I have installed a few bioriocks. Dam good system from an effluent quality point of view. In fact I reckon it is probably the best effleunt quality in Europe at c 3/3 standard. It is accepted by the local authorities and it does have the EN cert. I have a full copy is you need it just email me and I will shoot it over to you.
If there is any negative it is the fact that the outlet invert is so low. Approx 1.7m below cover level. So in many instances a little sump pump will be required. Having said that it is a small price to pay as the system its-self is non electric and from what the sales manager told me the desludge period is approx ever 7 years from the primary settlement i.e. the septic tank before the system.
It is a secondary WWTU so loadings as per secondary calcs.
hope this helps.
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2011-11-07 20:52:41
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| thomas Donnellan |
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Hi Tim,
I am looking at the biorock system to upgrade my septic tank from all accounts it a very good system. I see that the outlet is very low 1.7 mtrs . My problem is that my percolation area is going to be too small to fit all the percolation pipe in approx 60 mtrs . Is there any other type of percolation system that can be used for this system ? . |
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2011-11-07 21:21:18
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| Tim Clifford |
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Hi Thomas,
What were your percolation results like. Send me the site charachterisation form and I'll look at it for you. info@munsterenvironmental.com.
The chances are you will need a pump so you might as well utilise the pump and pump to a pressurused system. Send me on the results and I'll drop you a mail and place my opinion on the site so others can agree or disagree.
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Subject :Re:Biorock or air blowers?..
2012-02-07 12:06:02
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| Richard Faulkner |
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I too have heard that the Biorock is a good system and its a German system after all! But as i deal with air blowers and know how important the oxygen transfer is in standard aeration systems i question the level of air circulation in the Biorock and how big a job it is when the filter materials need replacing. with an aeration system using our diaphragm-less blowers, only an air filter needs to be changed and the primary chamber de-sludged every few years. But of corse - its also important where the air blower is located - best to be abov ground in a well ventillated box.
I think all systems out there fundamentally work well, but its just how long they last; the same principle with air blowers; Our MEDO range of LA Linear Shutle blowers tend to do double the lifetime of a diaphragm pump if the system is running right.
I am interested in the thoughts of others.
Rick Faulkner
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit EN Cert..
2012-02-21 23:31:42
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| thomas Donnellan |
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Hello All,
I see from the home page of site assessor website that there is a list of 12 waste water units that have the EN Certs (en12566-3) that make it suitable for use in Ireland .However i see the Biorock unit is not on this list, is this unit still suitable for use in Ireland ?. I Like the Biorock unit because it uses no electricity and is a green unit(low carbon footprint) with super effluent results . Has anyone out there got the Biorock fitted. I am told that the stone fibre material will need to be replace every few years . |
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-02-26 23:59:24
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| Darragh Donnelly |
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Hi Thomas,
The Biorock agent in Ireland forwarded me the full EN12566-3 report from the test centre PIA which is located in AAchen in Germany. To make a long story short the unit is suitable for use in ireland. However it is up to Biorock to request a new modified cert to show the unit IS suitable for use in Ireland and that it complies with the Irish national annex.
To date the biorock cert has not been modified and will not be listed on the site until modifications have been made.
Biorock are not alone on this. From what I can tell even though the Dept of Environment had the right idea requesting the certs be modified unfortunately they only communicated this point with only one of the accredited testing houses.
There are other test centres and there certs will also he.listed on this site over next few months.
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-02-29 12:40:32
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-03-05 21:20:03
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| Con Stack |
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Be careful.
Make sure the certificate is accepted by your local council.
Having certification, and it meeting the Irish standards are two very different things.
Also not every certified system did the structural testing. Make sure you have certs for that also.
Alternatives? Look at www.tricel.ie
Irish manufactured and holding IAB and EN12566-3 certification |
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-03-05 21:32:29
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| Darragh Donnelly |
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Hi Con,
Surely all the systems that are listed on the PIA website and on this website are units that are suitable for use in Ireland and comply with the IRL National Annex. Does PIA list units that are suitable for use in Ireland but have NOT been structurally tested?
Also I see you have signed off on your posting saying IAB certified. Is it true that IAB certification is worthless from this coming May (approx 10 weeks time) and the only certificate we should be concerned with is EN12566-3.
I have a question for you.
During the testing period there must have come a point at which the BOD/SS/NH4N exceeded the IRL required parameters. What happened in this instance. Were the systems desludged during the test?
If a manufacturer sent a small unit to be tested surely it was desludged more often?
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-03-09 17:13:54
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| Con Stack |
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Hi Darragh
My reply didnt seem to get through to you. There may be a fault on the site
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Subject :Re:Biorock aeration unit..
2012-03-14 12:07:33
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FYI.
This was not sent to me, nor did I receive it, it only came across my desk.
Con
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